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Depressing Supreme Court

  • September 17th, 2011

The most depressing element of the hopeless way our courts have dealt with the Urewera terror charges may be in the fine print of their reasoning tossing out Police evidence.

There is ineffable arrogance in deciding the the interests of victims and potential victims rank behind the Court interest in sending a stern message to the Police about the things they think the Police should not do. Instead of asserting or seeking powers to penalise the allegedly improper Police conduct, they reward offenders and punish the innocent. And these are the people with the effrontery to lecture us about "proportionality" in citizen responses to criminal aggression.

Secondly, the reasoning takes us even further from our great British inheritance that held the Police were not a praetorian guard, with special legal status. Instead they were just citizens doing fulltime what all decent citizens could and would do when faced with crime. Sadly the Supreme Court has said that the Police have more limited rights than the rest of us except as expressly stated in legislation. What a constitutional muddle we are getting from the Wilson Court

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Instead of asserting or seeking powers to penalise the allegedly improper Police conduct, they reward offenders and punish the innocent.
Isn't that what the Evidence Act as passed by Parliament requires? Should we be surprised that they're applying it?
the reasoning takes us even further from our great British inheritance that held the Police were not a praetorian guard, with special legal status. Instead they were just citizens doing fulltime what all decent citizens could and would do when faced with crime.
This was private land. Decent citizens couldn't lawfully go onto it and surreptitiously film what was happening.
I also look forward to hearing your argument in favour of abolishing the police database of fingerprints and DNA.

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Worse, continuing your comment on how this Court is taking us further from our great British inheritance, in the tax arena, which is where the rubber hits the road to the Orwellian nightmares our social(alist) democracies have become, the Supreme Court are waging a scorched earth war against classical liberalism. From  http://tiny.cc/rrt4c
 
… Cullen’s stupidity has led to a huge cost in terms of money lost that could have been used in the productive enterprise, as well as lives destroyed by stress and, possibly, soon, hardship as this negligent policy continues to be played out in our courts, where it is set to get real ugly with an IRD having the full powers of Big Brother and a compliant judiciary that see their task as dismantling classical liberalism, this last evidenced by the classical liberal tax ethic of  the 1936 House of Lords Westminster rule being completely overthrown by our courts over the last decade, with IRD having won every single case that mattered against the taxpayer. Judicial activism, fostered by Gramsci in our education system over recent generations, is now purely, and incredibly, set on sanctioning the right of the omniscient State to intrude unhindered on the individual’s privacy, property, and freedom. Our judges have only succeeded in traveling from the glorious hope of 1776, back in time to 1984, all with the best of caring intentions, of course, in our Gulag of Good Intentions …

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  • Scott
  • September 18th, 2011
  • 2:08 pm

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“the hopeless way our courts have dealt with the Urewera terror charges”
 A minor point, but terrorism charges were never laid against any of the “Urewera 18”. Which “terror” charges do you refer to?

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  • Scott
  • September 18th, 2011
  • 2:10 pm

and don't ask me where all that crazy text above my comment came from

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  • Mike Mckee
  • September 19th, 2011
  • 8:44 pm

Yeah i would go onto private land and film stuff to give to police as a private individual.
It would be for the greater good and would be my honestly held belief which I would be happy to answer to before a magistrate as a contributing member of society.

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